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Summary
Dr. Sunong, a seasoned surgeon and researcher with 50 years of experience, highlights a disturbing trend: rising cancer rates despite declining smoking rates, which traditionally correlate with cancer. He notes an increase in aggressive “turbo cancers” in younger patients, including pancreatic, colon, and ovarian cancers, often with poor prognoses. Notably, he recently encountered a 13-year-old with metastatic pancreatic cancer—a first in his career—and observes similar cases in patients as young as 8–11 and in their 30s–40s. Some previously stable cancer patients are relapsing after years in remission, a phenomenon linked by some to immune system disruption.
Dr. Sunong emphasizes the immune system’s role, where killer cells (like cytotoxic T and NK cells) normally eliminate cancer cells, balanced against suppressor cells. He suggests an imbalance—excessive immune suppression and insufficient activation—may be driving this surge, possibly tied to factors like chronic inflammation, ultra-processed foods, or infections. He advocates for “upregulating” the immune system to prevent cancer, criticizing oncology’s lack of focus on immunology. Conventional treatments, he argues, fail to enhance immunity, and he references a rejected T-cell-boosting vaccine as a missed opportunity. This “non-infectious pandemic” of cancers, especially in the young, raises urgent questions about its cause, with Dr. Sunong calling for deeper investigation into immune health and balance.
Video Transcript
**Warm welcome to this talk.**
Now, I’ve had innumerable requests to respond to this interview between Tucker Carlson and Dr. Patrick Sunong.
Dr. Sunong is a very experienced surgeon, medical researcher, and entrepreneur with 50 years of experience—so there’s a lot to learn from him. The reason I wanted to do this, apart from all the requests, is because it rings true with what I’m hearing from doctors in the UK. It sounds like doctors in the U.S. are seeing the same thing.
I’m going to do a quick review of the first part of this video, as I understand it.
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Tucker starts off by saying:
> We were told smoking causes cancer—and make no mistake, it does.
Smoking is a big factor in many cancers—not just lung, but bladder, pancreatic, and others. However, smoking has gone down dramatically. Only about 15% of people in the UK still smoke (though we now have those wretched vape things).
So, smoking is down. But cancer rates are up.
That’s strange. If smoking was a major cause, then with smoking down, we’d expect cancer to go down. Instead, it’s rising.
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Dr. Sunong is seeing more cancers in younger people, especially:
– **Pancreas**
– **Upper abdomen**
– **Ovaries (in women)**
– **Colon (large bowel)**
He specifically talks about pancreatic cancer, which normally has a **very poor prognosis**:
– **Locally advanced**: 6–10 months survival
– **Metastatic**: 3–5 months survival
Most are **adenocarcinomas**—glandular cancers that are painful, cause weight loss, and often lead to jaundice if the bile ducts are blocked.
Dr. Sunong has **never seen pancreatic cancer in children** in his entire career—until now.
Recently, a **13-year-old** was referred to him with advanced metastatic pancreatic cancer. Tragically, the child died.
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Since watching this interview, I’ve spoken to several highly experienced doctors (40+ years’ experience), and none have seen pancreatic cancer in children. This is **new**.
He’s also seeing it in people aged **40–45**, which is still considered early.
This has been described as a **non-infectious pandemic** of cancers.
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Dr. Sunong and his colleagues are also seeing:
– **Colon cancer** in kids as young as **8–11 years old**
– **Ovarian cancer** in women in their **30s and 40s**
He uses the term “**turbo cancers**”—more aggressive, more virulent, faster-spreading cancers.
Some patients who were in remission for years are relapsing after being stable for **5, 10, even 15 years**.
Prof. Dalgleish noticed that in some people who had **booster vaccines**, cancers that were dormant became **reactivated**.
This first part of the interview doesn’t mention vaccines directly, but other doctors and surgeons I’ve spoken to have observed this as well.
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Dr. Sunong goes on to talk about the **immune system**.
We all produce cancer cells every day. The immune system—especially **killer cells** like **cytotoxic T cells** and **natural killer (NK) cells**—normally kill them.
But there’s a **balance** between **killer cells** and **suppressor cells**.
To get cancer, something must inhibit the killer cells while activating suppressor cells—leading to **immunosuppression**.
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When suppressor cells are overactive, killer cells don’t do their job. That allows tumor cells to keep dividing.
He describes this as a **yin and yang** relationship—there needs to be balance, and right now, we’re **out of balance**.
So we’re seeing:
– Too much immune suppression
– Not enough immune activation
– A shift toward a weakened ability to fight cancer
He says:
> The best thing you can do to prevent cancer is to **upregulate your immune system**.
We need to increase killer T-cell activity and reduce regulatory/suppressor cell activity.
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But he says there’s a **lack of immunologists in oncology**.
Cancer doctors are clever, but the field doesn’t focus enough on **immunology**, and that might be a big part of the problem.
Dr. Sunong says:
> Cancer is everything about immunity.
That’s a bold statement.
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So, what’s causing this loss of balance in the immune system?
Possibilities include:
– **Ultra-processed foods**
– **Infections**
– **Chronic inflammation**
– **Abnormal immune reactions**
– **Persistent production of pathogenic proteins**
Chronic inflammation, in particular, is strongly linked to cancer.
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Dr. Sunong mentions something I didn’t know:
**Neutrophils**, the cells that normally eat bacteria, can **flip** and become **suppressor cells** under prolonged inflammation.
He returns to this idea of **yin and yang**, balance, and the concept of **quantum onco-therapeutics**.
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**What is quantum onco-therapeutics?**
He uses the term to describe how cells can exist in multiple states or switch states—like **neutrophils flipping to suppressors**.
It’s a bit like **Schrödinger’s cat**—something being in two states at once (or quickly switching).
Same for:
– **Killer cells vs. suppressor cells**
– **M1 macrophages (which eat) vs. M2 macrophages (which suppress)**
The immune system is a seesaw that must stay balanced. Right now, for many people, it’s not.
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He also brings up **quantum entanglement**—the idea that two cells could be linked in a way that a change in one triggers a change in the other.
Whether you take that literally or metaphorically, the point is: the immune system’s balance can shift **very quickly**.
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He criticizes conventional cancer treatments—surgery, radiation, chemo—not because they’re useless, but because they’re not **immunologically enlightened**.
They **attack** cancer, but don’t **enhance the immune system’s ability** to fight it.
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He mentions Prof. Dalgleish again, who developed a vaccine derived from a bovine bacteria (Mycoplasma vaccae).
It’s delivered **intradermally** and **stimulates T cells**.
– Boosts immune response
– Helps kill virally infected and cancerous cells
– Has kept oncology patients alive for a long time
Dalgleish tried to get it approved by the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency, but they **refused**.
> “There is a treatment that boosts cytotoxic T cells, but we’re not allowed it. And I want that vaccine.”
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So that’s the **first part** of the interview.
There seems to be an outbreak of **immunosuppression**, leading to **turbo cancers**, especially in **young people**.
We don’t yet know **what triggered it**—that data isn’t widely collected (yet).
But hopefully, in the U.S. at least, we’ll start getting data that helps us connect the dots between **interventions** (like maybe something from 2021–2022) and cancer appearing in 2024–2025.
That’s the hope.
Thanks for watching.
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